Welcome to Our American Stories, where we journey back to 1963, a truly transformative year for our nation. As America navigated the Cold War, the Civil Rights Movement, and the burgeoning Space Race, a different kind of challenge called from the other side of the world: Mount Everest. This isn’t just the incredible tale of a 29,032-foot peak; it’s the inspiring account of a ragtag group of men from across the United States who united for the first American Everest Expedition, daring to climb the world’s highest mountain during a time of immense national uncertainty.

As President John F. Kennedy stirred the nation with dreams of reaching the Moon, the spirit of exploring the “vast unknown” also pointed to Earth’s highest summit. Discover the incredible journey that led to this ambitious American adventure on Everest. From a grizzled climber’s unforgettable classroom presentation of his frostbitten toes, to an immigrant’s profound dream of an American triumph, this story explores the courage and determination that propelled men towards an impossible goal. Join us as we explore this pivotal moment in American history and adventure.

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Speaker 1: This is Lee Habib, and this is Our American Stories, the show where America is the star and the American People. To search for The Our American Stories podcast, go to the iHeartRadio app, to the Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast up. Next, a story about a twenty-nine thousand thirty-two foot tall mountain in Nepal and the ragtag group of men from across the United States who decided to climb it during one of the most transformative years in our nation’s history: 1963. Here to tell the story is Brot Coburn, author of “The Vast Unknown.” Let’s get into the story.

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Speaker 2: I was in the seventh grade in middle school in Tacoma, Washington, when the students in our class were summoned to the assembly hall to listen to a guest speaker. And in walked a man with a grizzled beard and laser-like eyes, and he looked at all of us, reached down, opened a zipper of his celty frame pack and pulled out a bottle and passed it around the room. It contained his nine blackened toes that had been amputated in the capital city of Nepal. And we were horrified and delighted, and at that point I was hooked. The man was Willie Unsold. And it turned out that Willie Unsold had led a life of charity because he was rescued in 1949 after for making an attempt on a peak in India by some missionaries, and they turned him on to a life of service. So I really wanted to follow in Willie Unsold’s footsteps. I joined the Peace Corps. I was assigned to Nepal, and I learned about the American Everest Expedition of 1963. The United States was really in a time of tremendous uncertainty. The Cuban Missile Crisis was underway, where the Soviets were attempting to deliver nuclear armed missiles to Cuba. The Civil Rights Movement was ramping up, and in 1958, just a few years earlier, the Soviets had launched a basketball-sized satellite named Spotnik, and the beat beat beat of Spootnik became something of a soundtrack for the suspicion that our adversary, the Soviets, were going to take the high road and claim supremacy in the Space Race. So America was behind the eight ball and inspired President John F. Kennedy, in his famous Moon Speech in Houston in 1960, to declare that the United States would place a man on the Moon by the end of the decade.

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Speaker 3: Why some say the Moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why thirty-five years ago? Why the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas? We choose to go to the Moon. We choose to go to the Moon, dis decate, and do the other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.

00:04:06
Speaker 2: Because that goal.

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Speaker 3: Will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills.

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Speaker 2: And in that speech he invoked the great British climber George Mallory, who was lost on Everest headed for the summit.

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Speaker 3: Many years ago. The great British explorer George Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked why did he want a climate? He said, “Because it is there.” Well, Space is there, and we’re going to climate.

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Speaker 2: There was Mallory’s spirit of reaching into the vast unknown that inspired Kennedy and the Americans to want to take on a task as daunting and uncertain as climbing Mount Everest. In 1949, India became independent from Britain, and so the British were trying to maintain some kind of colonial presence around the world. They’d lost India, but maybe they could capture Everest. The British and the Swiss had long had a proprietary interest in mountains of the world. The British were the primary climbers in the Alps of Switzerland and Italy, and they were guided by the Swiss. So the Swiss were also quite interested in reaching the top, and in fact, in 1952, a year before the British, the Swiss were able to stage two expeditions to the mountain. They came very close to the summit, but they didn’t reach it, and so an oppertun tunity opened up for the British in 1953. Now, one gentleman who was on the Swiss expedition in 1952, he was tweaked by this achievement of the British. He had long assumed that the Swiss would make it to the top. He was a Swiss-Austrian himself. His name was Norman Derenfirth, except that Norman Derenfirth’s parents, who were great explorers and mappers and climbers of the Himalayas in the early 1900s, they were concerned about the development of Nazism in Europe. Norman’s mother, Hetty, was half Jewish, so when Norman was a teenager in 1938, he and his mother emigrated to the United States. And while Norman was in the US, he dreamed that perhaps America, the people of this new country, could stage an expedition to Everest.

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Speaker 1: And you’re listening to Brot Coburn tell the story of the ragtag group of men from across this country who decided to climb Mount Everest. When we come back, more of this remarkable story on Our American Stories. Folks, if you love the stories we tell about this great country, and especially the stories of America’s rich past, know that all of our stories about American history, from war to innovation, culture and faith, are brought to us by the great folks at Hillsdale College, a place where students study all the things that are beautiful in life and all the things that are good in life. And if you can’t get to Hillsdale, Hillsdale will come to you with their free and terrific online courses. Go to Hillsdale.edu to learn more. And we continue with Our American Stories and the story of the first American ascent of the world’s highest mountain, Mount Everest. When we last left off, Brot Coburn, author of “The Vast Unknown,” was telling us about the state of the world in 1963. We were in the midst of the Cold War and tensions were high. However, there was a growing desire to explore the vast Unknown. One place that was unknown to Americans was Space. The other, the summit of Everest, and one European immigrant to this great country had a desire to change that. His name was Norman Derenfirth. Let’s get back to the story.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps one of the biggest challenges of Everest is just getting to the base of the mountain. There are no roads in eastern Nepal, so getting there required an eighteen-day track up and down a vertical equivalent of Everest itself just to get to base camp. And once they arrived at base camp, the daunting challenge that presented itself right away is the treacherous Kombu Ice Fall, which is a moving river of apartment-house-size blocks of ice that can collapse and crush climbers in a second. And in fact, by 1953, after Tensing Norgay and Ed Hillary climbed to the top, twice as many climbers had died on the mountain as had reached the top. But Norman Derenfirth, now an American, had been on Everest in 1952, and he really had a graph of the challenges that they would face. He had been high on the mountain. He knew it was possible to reach the top, and he knew it would be especially possible for young, tough, strong Americans to be able to reach it as well. Norman knew that opportunity, excellence, perseverance, and success were really at the heart of the American Dream. Perhaps there could be a core of people who were driven to climb mountains, just as they were in Europe. And so he turned to the Tetons of Wyoming, and there he ran into a core of college students really who were exemplified by the young man Barry Corbett and Jake Brighton Bach. These were Dartmouth students, who every summer used to drive their battered 1949 Hudson across the US before the freeways were installed and knock off new routes up the peaks in the Tetons, and Norman knew that these guys were at least the beginning of forming a team consisting of the right stuff. In fact, Barry and Jake in particular were referred to as SABS, or supremely able-bodied, and there were other Tetons climbers. Dick Emerson, a sociologist, was a guide during the summers in the Tetons. Willie Unsold, so he recruited these gentlemen, and he also went out to the Pacific Northwest, where one of the legends, Jim Whittaker, known as Big Jim Whittaker, had climbed Mount Rainier more than one hundred times, and he and his twin brother were recruited to the expedition. They also suggested that a Sherpao was a nephew of Tens Norgay named Nauongombu, also be included on the expedition. He had carried heavy loads to very high elevation, and Norman knew that he would need some science to go along with the expedition. The National Geographic Society, the National Science Foundation, the US in particular, would want to learn more about the glaciology of the mountain, so they took on a geologist named Maynard Miller, and they took on Jim Lester, a psychologist from Southern California. Barry Bishop of the National Geographic Society would be the media connection, and Luke Jerstad, a hot-shot guide and climber from Oregon, would definitely be a strong climber for the expedition. Luke used to surprise his guided clients on Mount Rainier when they reached the summit of the 14,000-foot peak. He would open up his rocks sack and pull out an entire watermelon. But experience alone isn’t quite enough for a mountain as big and as far away and distant and isolated as Everest, so he was also looking for some character attributes, such as maturity and ability to respond to extremely difficult situations and a willingness to face risk because there was a likelihood that one or more of the members of his team would not return. His biggest challenge at that point was convincing sponsors and the government of the US into endorsing and hopefully funding an expedition to the mountain. Why would anyone in America really care about Everest? Everest was a geological oddity. It was a long way from anywhere that mattered to Americans, and it had little to offer sponsors who were looking for productive applications in technology or defense. Now, in Europe, politics was closely entwined with athletics, not like in the US, and the Soviets had budgeted very large amounts to their athletic teams to essentially show that communism was the best form of government. But Americans were left with very little support. When Norman Derenfirth approached the US government and tried to get a meeting with President Kennedy, they rebuffed him. In a sense, America was a little bit afraid: failure would be a big embarrassed. It would be an embarrassment not only in the context of athletics and climbing relative to Europe and the rest of the world, but in an era when we were striving to solve our domestic problems. It was considered to be dangerous. America had more to lose than it had to gain. But Norman and these other young idealistic climbers knew a place like Everest was a venue where they could project their dreams. Gradually, they overcame that resistance and they realized that, of course, if America could place a man on the Moon by the end of the decade, why shouldn’t they be able to put a human on top of the world’s highest point? And it was at the National Geographic Society that they decided to take on this project. Of course, they knew that one of the key outputs from their point of view would be media, photographs, movies, and so on. Norman Derenfirth was a filmmaker. He’d had a television program and he was a director of one of the film schools at the University of Southern California, and he jumped at the possibility of being able to document this expedition for the Americans.

00:16:34
Speaker 1: And we’ve been listening to Brot Coburn, author of “The Vast Unknown,” and by the way, what a story he’s telling. As Norman Derenfirth was assembling this team, he knew that experience wasn’t enough. He was looking, he said, for maturity, the ability to confront catastrophe, and the appetite for risk, and then hoping for an endorsement from either a corporate sponsor or government sponsor. The National Geographic Society stepped up. What was the upside? Media, folks: great stories, great pictures, and great film. When we come back, more of the remarkable story of America’s first team to scale Mount Evers here on Our American Stories, and we continue with Our American Stories and the story of the first American ascent of the world’s highest mountain, Mount Everest. When we last left off, Brot Coburn, author of “The Vast Unknown,” was telling us about the creation of Norman Derenfirth’s team that he put together to climb the mountain, consisting of climbers from the Tetons and Pacific. Let’s pick up we’re brought leftoff.

00:18:34
Speaker 2: Norman had his hands full in trying to manage this odd collection of characters who had come together in a single, unified goal. Because of all the funding that was at stake, Norman had essentially guaranteed the National Geographic Society that they would deliver the summit, and the easiest way to deliver Mount Everest in a sense, was to climb it by the route that had already been climbed by the British and the Swiss, but some tensions began to develop. There was a faction consisting mainly of climbers from the Tetons who wondered if it might just be possible to pull off a new route on Everest, something that would impress even the great European climbers or the Swiss. It just might be possible to forge a new route up the West Ridge of Everest. Many of the other members of the expedition in Norman felt that applying too much attention to this new route on the West Ridge could jeopardize their chance of bringing home the summit. And one of the big problems that they recognized was that if the West Ridge of Ever could be climbed, they all knew that those climbers would not be able to descend by the same route for various technical reasons and the shape of the rock that they would be descending. Those climbers would have to descend by the standard South Coal Route. In other words, they would have to descend by route they had never seen. And so Norman decided, after a lot of discussion and bickering, that they would climb the easy route up Mount Everest, if you want to call it that. And if there was time and supplies and material and supplemental oxygen remaining after that climb, then the West Ridge faction would have a shot by their daring new route. Now, here they are at base camp, facing the daunting Kombu Ice Fall, and they didn’t have exactly a plan because there were so many variables at that point. Which climbers would be strong, which would be sick or suffering from altitude sickness, what would the weather conditions bring them? There was a lot of uncertainty, but Norman Derenfirth assigned Big Jim Whittaker and Nauongombu to be the first party to climb the mountain via the standard South Coal Route. On the second day of climbing, Jake Brighton Bach and Dick Pownell and Gil Roberts and Asherpa were climbing through the Kombu Ice Fall and Jake ascended a vertical sheet of ice on the far side of a crevass, and as he was approaching the top, the whole face of this glacier broke off and collapsed. Jake was crushed beneath 30 tons of ice. So the team returned to base camp, and they asked the question: should they continue with the climb? And it was Jake’s best friend, Barry Corbett, who said, “Why would we not climb when that is exactly what Jake had dedicated his life to? We’ll climb the mountain, not without Jake but for Jake.” So they decided to continue, and on May 1, 1963, Big Jim Whittaker and Nauongombu were able to plant the flag of the United States on the Summit of Everest. But it wasn’t what they found on the summit that was interesting. It’s what they didn’t find. They were half expecting to find the bust of Chairman Mao that the Chinese said they had left on the summit three years earlier, in 1960, but they climb that the Chinese claim of Everest in 1960 has been disputed. They arrived at the summit at 4 o’clock in the morning in complete darkness and had no photographic evidence of their climb, and so whether they made it to the summit or not is still being disputed, but in underscores what was at stake geopolitically, but at least the Americans had made it. They’d reached the top, and so when Big Jim Whittaker and Nauongombu returned to base camp, it was now the turn for the West Ridge contingent, except many of the and porters had already run off down valley and it wasn’t clear whether there would be enough supplies to be able to support another try on the mountain. Norman and some of the others said, “We’ve already reached the top, why do we have to do it again?” But the West Ridge faction was persistent, and they knew that it would put a gigantic feather in the cap of the United States if they could even make a serious attempt by that daunting new route. So in late May, with diminished supplies, a core of seven climbers and as many Sherpes took off headed for the West Ridge of Everest, and they came up onto the West Shoulder and they were able to establish Camp 4 and then they continued up to the base of the very steep part of the West Ridge and established a camp at 22,000 feet. And that evening Willie Unsold walked out of the tent to look 10,000 feet down to the Wrongbuk Glacier into Bet and over the other side of the ridge 6,000 feet down to the Western Coomb below him, and he was wondering why the snow in front of him seemed so scoured. But they would find out that night when they were in their tents that they had pitched their tents and what is arguably one of the windiest places in the world, and near hurricane-force winds that night elevated their tents and tumbled them 60 feet downslope, and they came to rest perch just above the gigantic drop down to the Wrongbuk Glacier in Tibet. They re-gathered themselves the ne.